From the monthly archives:

November 2007

Barry the Ghost

by Nick Underhill on November 16, 2007

bondsthumb.jpgPut away your black suits and glum faces, this is not a time of mourning.  No one will be etching an epitaph into a headstone anytime soon, baseball is alive and well.  It was as inevitable as death and taxes, maybe it got out of hand, shoved under the rug for someone else to deal with as the repercussions reached an incurable state, but Barry Bonds was going to be dealt with one way or another.  Major League Baseball should have been the ones to deal with their mess, it would have been the honorable thing to do, sort of like how Old Yeller’s owners laid him to rest after he contracted rabies, but never-the-less the situation is finally over.

These are not the last days of an empire.  Rome isn’t burning, this is the rebirth of a great sport regressing into purer times.  Alert the prophets, the end of the game’s darkest era is among us, the sun can finally shine on all of those honest and forthright.  There is only one more prophecy to be fulfilled, and that is the Mitchell Report.  We’ve already weathered the storm, we have been for years, these new developments aren’t new at all.  As far as the Bonds indictment is irrelevant because all of the information has already been digested by the public and is generally accepted as the truth.  In case you need a refresher, what this whole thing is telling us is this:  Bonds used steroids he purchased, or obtained through a liaisons acting on his behalf, from BALCO and one Victor Conte. 

Isn’t this what everyone wanted?  What we’ve been waiting for?  I never wanted to see the man facing 30 years in jail, I don’t think anyone did, but if that gives you some solace I don’t blame you.  This criminal high-jacked our sacred record books and desecrated the game we love.  Maybe, just maybe, we can finally begin the cleansing process.  The things Bonds accomplished on the diamond are irreversible, he did what he did and the memories, horrific or otherwise, will forever be etched into our brains.  What we can change is the data and, if convicted, we finally have a leg to stand on.  If it is proven that he did indeed ‘knowingly’ take the clear why can’t we just erase his name from the record books and act like he never existed?  They did it to Chris Webber after it was found that he accepted money while at Michigan, why not do it to Bonds?

A lot of people say this would be a very complicated process but I disagree.  Well, as long as you don’t make it one, it’s a simple twofold process.  Just leave his name in the box scores, and add a note stating that baseball does not recognize his individual efforts due to rules infractions at the bottom.  That’s it, you don’t have to adjust all the pitching statistics or team records like the SABR people have suggested.  Then turn Bonds into a ghost in the record books.  The single season home run record would go back to Roger Maris.  What about Mark McGwire, you ask?  As far as I’m concerned he came close enough to admitting his usage so since we are fixing history he gets skipped over.  No need to bring the black clouds back around.  Then Hank Aaron would be relisted as the all-time king, Babe Ruth would be the walks leader, and so on. 

It’s the perfect ending to a nightmare.  The sport needs cleansing and this is the way to do it.  It would set the right example for America’s youth.  How are you supposed to tell your kids that cheaters never win when all they have to do is point a finger at baseball and say ‘what about Barry Bonds’?  How do you answer give a proper answer to that question?  More importantly, we, as fans, need this.  We’re the ones that suffered through all of the awkward moments, not Bonds.  How will we be vindicated if he goes to prison?  Those feelings from 756 have resurfaced for all of us, now we finally have grounds for removal.  Do the right thing.   

Even if it doesn’t happen at least we have a new day to hang our hats on.  This is truly the first step in the right direction, there will be some backtracking, a few more hero’s will fall, but when it’s all said and done only the righteous will remain.  God-willing, one day we will have our clean home run kings.  Hopefully sooner rather than later.  If somehow Bonds beats this case we have the power to do something about it.  Public perception is a hard thing to eclipse, and in the end we hold the power to determine how this man is remembered.  If we refuse to acknowledge these accomplishments, then did it really happen?

I never would wish prison time on any man, especially one who has a family that depends on him.  Sure, he has all the money in the world and they will be financially secure, but emotionally and developmentally no one should be without a father.  Those kids didn’t make those decisions and in the end they will suffer as much as Bonds.  They are the ones that will be left to deal with public ridicule and scorn when, or if, he is behind bars.  That’s not fair.  For something considered a victimless crime, a lot of people are going to suffer.

Possibly the biggest repercussion, guilty or not, will be on his career.  I can pretty much guarantee that he will never step foot on a baseball diamond again.  Who would be willing to take the risk to sign him while he is in such a state of turmoil?  Who in their right mind would be willing to risk their job by offering Bonds a contract?  What owner would sign off on it?  I don’t care what city you are in, the fans would never accept him as one of their own.  The negative outweighs any results he could give you.

How ironic is it that a man that was just trying to get bigger and get some attention has effectively turned himself into a ghost?  All he wanted is for people to realize how great he is and it backfired.  Now, instead of branding his name into baseball, baseball has branded itself into him.  His artifact has been defecated the same way he has defecated the game.  Everything he has done has had an equal and opposite reaction on his life.  He took the steroids to get bigger, but instead it has made him invisible.  He’s already disappeared from the diamond, possibly the record books, and likely from the world as he knows it.  Locked away in obscurity while he replaced by more deserving the figures.  Every now and then his name will pop up to haunt us like a ghost, but it’s better than having his name in boldface at every book.   


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Vince Young: Fraud

by Nick Underhill on November 15, 2007

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I hope after last week’s performance everyone is finally ready to admit the truth about Vince Young.  Can we finally stop all the gushing about his inordinate natural talent?  Because the truth is, it doesn’t exist.  You can blame it on his inadequate supporting cast if you’d like, but what does that have to do with his ability to throw it to a guy with the same colored shirt as him?  Somewhere between his 8-5 record last season and being the Madden cover-boy we lost sight of what this man really is: a barely adequate NFL quarterback. 

It’d be convenient to sum up his inability to do his job on something as inane as the mythical Madden Curse.  It does give everyone a nice and tidy excuse.  Enough is enough, it ends here.  We’ve been giving this guy reprieves for two years; it’s time for him to take responsibility for his own shortcomings.   Young’s style of play makes him one of the most electrifying players in the NFL, but being exciting doesn’t mean you’re good.  Hell, watching celebrity boxing is exciting.  That doesn’t mean Dustin Diamond is fit to step in the ring with Floyd Mayweather.

Young is an effective runner, in fact, the man drafted a slot of ahead of him, Reggie Bush, out rushed him by only 13 yards last season on nearly double the carries last year.  That’s no small feat, but as a quarterback his legs should be secondary.  Since when is alright for a quarterback to be a below average passer?   When defenses force him to stay in the pocket and air it out he is rendered ineffective. In his four dates prior to Sunday’s match-up against the Jaguars he was held to an average of 17 rushing yards.  So it should come as no surprise that he also failed to pass for a touchdown in each of these games.

Coming into the league there were questions about Young’s ability to be an effective passer, so this isn’t a new development.  It wouldn’t be such a big deal if there wasn’t so much hype surrounding his every move.  Somehow he got pushed to the forefront of the league without ever accomplishing anything.  Sure, the Titans nearly made it to the playoffs last season, but this wasn’t because of Young’s arm, it was in spite of it.  The guy has never passed for 300 yards in game, his career completion percentage is on the wrong side of 60, and he is among the worst in the league in QB rating.  Supposedly teams have fits drawing up a game plan for him, it appears rather simple: make him throw the ball. 

Again, this wouldn’t be a big deal if the general public wouldn’t have placed him on a pedestal overlooking all the quarterbacks not named Peyton or Tom, when in fact he ranks somewhere in the bottom third of the quarterback hierarchy.  Take away his legs and he’d be dead last.  What’s so mind boggling about this is that as soon as Michael Vick began to falter the buzzards were more than ready to rip him apart limb from limb, but somehow Vince remains invincible to public’s negating eye.

Look at Eli Manning, the poor guy has had his game dissected from top to bottom, from the way he stands in the pocket to the horrible face he makes after a mistake.  Even though he has his team sitting at 6-3 and in position to make a deep playoff push, he continues to be lambasted in the media.  He may be the Tito of the family, but as a quarterback his body of work should allow him to circumvent this type of scrutiny at this point of his career. 

You’d think in this day and age someone would have blown the horn by now, but there have only been whispers of the presence of a false prophet.  Where is the Sports Illustrated cover with the word ‘Fraud’ splashed across his smiling face?  Where are the stories that inundated Vick stating that he would be better suited as a running back?  Young’s stats have already proved that he is guilty; all that’s left is for someone to convict him.


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Five Freshmen to Watch For

by Nick Underhill on November 11, 2007

mayo.jpgKevin Garnett forever changed the history of college ball by never stepping on an NCAA court. Many players before him made the jump from preps to pros, but he made it a trend. It’s impossible to know what these players would have done in the collegiate ranks, some never succeeded in the pros, but the landscape of the game has certainly been altered because of it. When Carmello Anthony carried Syracuse to the title in 2003 we got a glimpse of the impact that NBA ready freshman could have on the game.

We no longer have to debate over what could have been now that the league has implemented an age requirement. Last year we got our first look at the great experiment and it turned out to be one of the best seasons in recent memory. The total impact is yet to be felt but the results are promising. As fans we have been blessed. Before we would have never known Kevin Durant or Greg Oden until they established themselves in the NBA, instead we were able to witness as they produced two of the greatest single seasons college basketball has ever seen. The game meant something again. We were familiar with the players being drafted instead of having the basis of our arguments being others written accounts and YouTube clips. The level of hysteria surrounding these guys hasn’t been seen since 1979 when Ervin Johnson and Larry Bird took the nation by storm.

This just goes to show how different the game is today. Bird and Magic were veterans in the college ranks. Having an experienced team used to equate to certain success, now being able to wrap up NBA ready talent might be the key. Don’t get me wrong having a team that has played together forever like Florida will always be king, but there’s nothing wrong with letting Oden and Michael Conley lead the way either. Here’s a list of five freshmen that could do the same this year.

Eric Gordon, Indiana
The nation knows him as the guy that burned Illinois but his game will soon change that. This guy is the most complete, NBA ready scoring guard in the country and very well could follow in Durant’s steps and win Player of the year honors. He has an innate ability to get in the lane and draw contact which is bad news for his opponents because he shot 89 percent from the charity line in high school. Since Kelvin Sampson put the Indiana basketball program in peril to land Gordon anything less than a Big Ten title will be considered a disappointment. Gordon has the pedigree to get it done, but was it worth it for a one-and-done player?
Stats: Averaged 27 points over first two exhibition games shooting 18-for-29 from the field and 8-for-12 from three point land.

Derrick Rose, Memphis
Far from the bright lights of North Carolina and Duke, Rose will be College Hoop’s best kept secret. There’s been a little early season buzz surrounding his game but he will soon be forgotten when league play begins, where exactly zero of their games will be televised. This is bad news for his foes because Rose already plays with a chip on his shoulder, so when all of his peers are getting the press and recognition he’s going to feel spurned. Don’t be surprised come March when Rose shows up with guns blazing and leads Memphis to a National Title. Yep, you can quote me on that.
Stats: Scored 17 on 8-of-16 shooting from the field and 1-for-5 from three to go along with 5 assists and 6 rebounds in debut against Tennessee Martin. In second game against Richmond Rose scored 21 and added 5 boards.

Michael Beasley, Kansas State
It has been tumultuous summer for Beasley and Co. First he set the recruiting scene on fire by following his AAU coach Delonte Hill to Charlotte. Then, Bob Huggins, purveyor of shadiness, signed on with K-State after being forced out of Cincinnati following a DUI arrest. Huggins first order of business: wooing Hill into taking a job as an assistant so he could get to get Beasley. Then once his work was done, Huggins took off to greener pastures, leaving Beasley with a head coach with zero experience, Frank Walker. This says nothing about Beasley the player. It speaks volumes on him as a man. He’s been notorious for his poor decision making and it has proceeds him wherever he goes. If it were for all the indiscretions I would have placed him first on this list because in my opinion he is the most talented incoming freshman. His game is silky smooth, he has a knack for getting boards, and, most importantly, he makes those around him better. I worry about him getting in trouble out in the other Manhattan, there’s nothing to do there, whether or not that is a good thing is yet to be seen.
Stats: Scored 24 points in opener to go along with a conference record 24 rebounds in debut against Sacramento State.

OJ Mayo, USC
By now you should be familiar with the kid that was pegged an NBA ready talent by the time he was in tenth grade. Unfortunately his arrogance is as large as his game. Keeping up with him in the prep ranks was a tiring process as he jumped from school to school due to various scuffs with authority. Although his antics might be deplorable, his talent is too much to deny. Given the proper structure Mayo could end up being one of the finest point-guards in the land. His court vision and basketball sense would allow him to succeed to the NBA right now. If he can stay out of trouble he will be a top five pick in next year’s draft.
Stats: Scored 32 points in losing effort against unranked Mercer.

Kyle Singler, Duke
After one look at Duke’s new recruit you will instantly think JJ Redick. Don’t. Coach K might have a deep history of singing on lanky white boys that can shoot the lights out of the gym, like Redick, Steve Wojochowski and Jon Scheyer, so that line of thinking is understandable, but those guys were one dimensional players. Don’t get it twisted, Singler is a sharpshooter, but he can also pass, rebound, and handle. But the biggest difference is that he can actually dunk. Really hard.
Stats: Scored 15 points in debut against NC Central.

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Miggy over A-Rod? Believe It

by Nick Underhill on November 9, 2007

_39232616_cabrera203.jpgI thought for sure that Alex Rodriguez was going to be the biggest prize on the open market this offseason, but I’m not so sure now that Marlins put Miguel Cabrera up for auction.  It would preposterous to say that Cabrera is a better player than Rodriguez, but the fact that he is eight years younger than the quarter billion dollar man makes him a lot more attractive.

He’s not going to be cheap though.  The Marlins are looking to land a haul similar to the one they got for Josh Beckett two years ago, which included a mixed bag of major league-ready players with some great tools prospects sprinkled in, namely Hanley Ramirez.  This is going to make it difficult to get a deal done because few teams have the means to put together such a package.  The Marlins aren’t the type of club to make a deal just for the sake of it, they are going to want players like Dustin Pedroia or Joba Chamberlain.  In other words, the sure shot superstars of tomorrow.  They’ll eventually get what they want because they have the upper hand here because they don’t have to make a deal. In no way is the pressure on them, they have until July 31, 2009 before they have to make a decision.  Someone is going to have to overpay for them to get motivated enough to actually pull the trigger this winter.  Sure, they would love to get out from under the $30 million Cabrera is set to make in arbitration over the remainder of his contract, but if they have to eat it, that’s what they’ll do. 

Believe it or not landing Rodriguez is actually going to be easier.  All you have to do is set $30 million on the table and tell him to sign on the dotted line. In reality its a little more complex than that, but theoretically it’s easier to sign a player than it is to trade for one.  Take Cabrera for instance, he’s publically expressed his desire to play with Albert Pujols in Saint Louis on more than one occasion, but it will never happen unless he becomes a free agent.  Unfortunately for the Cardinal faithful Walt Jocketty never met a prospect he wouldn’t trade, so their hopes of landing the other half of the Dominican Bash Brothers is looking grim.  If he was a free agent we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.

Ironically the same teams that are looking to sign Rodriguez are the same ones that could put together the spread the Marlins are looking for.  With this new development Scott Boras has lost his bargaining chip because Rodriguez is no longer the only marquee name being shopped around town.  Many teams would have considered settling for Mike Lowell if it meant saving $10 million a year, but now they have Cabrera to consider. 

The question is, who do you go with?  Let’s put all the business aside and just talk about sheer talent and potential.  If we were just talking about next year then obviously Rodriguez is your guy.  It would be borderline blasphemous to say otherwise, but what about in two years?  Or Five?  Ten?  Rodriguez is going to turn 33 next July which means that he is going to start slowing down sometime in the near future.  He has at least a year or two before this happens but it’s going to come sooner rather than later.  Not everyone is ‘blessed’ like Barry Bonds. 

At 24 years of age Miguel Cabrera hasn’t even began to peak and he’s already a perennial .300/.400/.500- 30 homerun- 100 RBI guy.  These credentials already grant him admittance into the upper echelon of baseball royalty.  In other words, he’s Albert Pujols with slightly less power, but as his body matures that gap should be closed.  Over the last four years he’s averaged 31.5 homers in a park that murders right-handed power hitters.  Put him somewhere a little friendlier and that number is probably on the higher end of 30. 

Even if Cabrera never takes that next step he will be on par with Rodriguez until he begins to fade into a traveling circus act, a la Barry Bonds.  I can’t see him just leveling out though.  Take it for what it’s worth, but various studies show that players peak as hitters around the age of 26 or 27 and then begin to fall around 34. This means that Cabrera is still green and Rodriguez is at the wrong end of the spectrum.

Well, I’m not a believer in this.  Many of you know that I feel each player should be judged on a case by case basis.  I’m not willing to accept a study that added up what every player has done at a certain age and say this is what is going to happen.  It’s stupid and irresponsible because players like Cabrera and Rodriguez are above averages.  According to these studies Rodgiruez should be declining, when in fact he had the best season of his career this past year.  What this tells me is that he has at least four more years at a high level before people start to talk about him in the past tense.  As far as Cabrera is concerned, he will take that next step and I truly believe he will be one of the five best hitters in the league (if he isn’t already) until he enters his twilight years.

Now the question is whether or not Cabrera can continue to play third base.  Personally I would say no, his line this past season (954 FP, 33 DP, 23 E, 266 A, 100 PO) was pedestrian at best.  A lot of people blame this on the extra weight he has put on since his rookie year, and it is of concern, but it’s ridiculous to suggest that he is going to eat his way out of the league.   He came into the league at about 185 pounds, and is now at about 250, but even if he lost about 30 pounds it wouldn’t matter.  He’s just not nimble enough to play at the hot corner and would be better suited at first base.  This shouldn’t make him any less valuable, or should it be of concern.  Albert Pujols is one of the most valuable players in the league and even he couldn’t cut it at third.  Prince Fielder is more round than muscular and he’s right up there too.  Then there’s David Ortiz who can’t even play the field but still manages to force his name into MVP discussions every year with his bat.    

If this is considered a knock on Cabrera then the demerits should also be applied to Rodriguez’s name.  There’s been a lot of discussion about him making the move back to short even though he is older, bigger, and slower than he was back in 2000 when he first hit the free agent market.  Even without Derek Jeter blocking his move back to short there was no way he was going to succeed, and frankly I think it saved him a lot of embarrassment.  At an easier position he played merely adequate defense (.965 FP) and was only slightly above average (.957).  Some team will likely roll the dice and see what happens even though he has about as much business at short as Alfonso Soriano has at second.

It’s a tough decision to make, but if I was running a team I would have to go with youth and upside potential.  Both players are going to be around .300/.400/.600 until the curtains close so you can’t really go wrong, but I would rather have it for ten years instead of five.  From a business standpoint Rodriguez is obviously the more attractive option considering that he is closing in on Barry Bonds’ homerun record. Cabrera may not break any records, but if he averages 35 homers a year for the duration of his career then he should end up with about 700, placing him fourth all-time.  If that guy can’t help you win a few games here and there, then I don’t know what to tell you.  You can either enjoy it during its prime or you can get it at the end.  I’d rather watch the process than just see the result.


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The Not So Golden Glove

by Nick Underhill on November 7, 2007

ericchavezgoldgloveMore so that any other sport baseball is known for its history.  Fathers and sons have bonded for centuries over the trivialities of the game.  Many-of-afternoons I sat and listened as my grandfather told folktales about the great Stan Musial, while my father argued that Bob Gibson would have owned him.  Being a curious kid I thumbed through my Baseball Almanac and realized how good these players were as I marveled at all the awards they had won throughout their careers.  They certainly had to among the greatest players to ever live.

I think somewhere along the line the importance of these awards have been lost upon the voters.  They determine how players are remembered throughout history.  They may not realize it, but by naming Joe DiMaggio the 1941 MVP they determined that his 56-game hitting streak was more significant than Ted Williams hitting .403.  Personally I disagree with this decision, and over the years I have questioned the integrity of these writers, but I have always been able to understand the logic behind who they chose –even if it was twisted.

I’m not sure if I can say the same about the managers.  The Gold Glove isn’t nearly as important as the aforementioned awards, but it still holds significance.  You’d think that they would know the game better than anyone considering the fact that as a unit they see every game played, but I’m not so sure anymore. 

This year’s class was a complete atrocity.  We won’t even point out the fact that four outfielders were named in the National League.  I’m aware that there was a tie, but do something to break it.  Isn’t one of the things that make baseball great the fact that nothing ever ends in a tie?  Well, unless of course you are talking about an All-Star game.  I’m not even going to rehash the details of that dark day because I’m sure you remember.   That single has caused the whole post-season format to be completely screwed up by a completely meaningless game.

Maybe the biggest screw-up the voters made was naming Jimmy Rollins the best defensive shortstop in the NL.  I acknowledge he is one of its most valuable players but in no way did he deserve to be adorned with this honor.  His numbers weren’t too shabby. He only committed 11 errors and his .985 fielding percentage was respectable, placing him right on par with the 11 and .987 Troy Tulowitzki posted, but he also led the league in putouts, assists and double plays.  In my mind that would place him ahead of the pack and make him the most deserving player, but I guess not.  Omar Vizquel, last year’s winner, should have also been considered here.

Some day, 20 years from now, a kid is going to crack open his web browser and is going to led to believe that Andruw Jones is best defensive player of all-time because a few managers would rather make the easy choice than do their homework

I can understand the logic here. Tulowitzki is a rookie while Rollins is a seasoned vet with a reputable track record, but more importantly, he made a couple big plays down the stretch that were decisive in their playoff push.  What really dumbfounded though was the selection of Grady Sizemore over Curtis Granderson.  I could fathom this if offense was somehow tied to this award, oh wait, Granderson has him there too.  This is outrageous, he even had the highlight reel catches that the voters could hang their hats on, so what happened?  Granderson had a .989 fielding percentage, 10 assists, and 424 putouts to go along with 5 errors.  Sizemore put up a slightly better .995 with four assists, 399 putouts, and two errors.  On paper it’s closer than it should have been.  Anyone that actually saw these guys play knows that Granderson is the better defensive player.  He’s quickly becoming this generations Jim Edmonds as he lead the league in Webgems this year.

While were looking at numbers let’s take a glance at Derrek Lee, this years winner at first base in the National League.  Just for the fun of it let’s compare him to Albert Pujols’.  Lee put up a .994 percentage with 99 double plays, 7 errors, 87 assists, with 1,165 putouts.  Somehow Pujols lost out while putting up a .995 percentage with 132 double plays, 8 errors, 124 assists with 1,325 putouts.  How does this happen?

You could make arguments against several of the other candidates such as Torri Hunter, but we’ll just stop here.  I can understand the writers screwing things up, but the managers see these guys everyday and should know them better than anyone.  I disagree with a lot of things the sabrmetric guys write, but they do have an advantage in that they rarely watch games and therefore aren’t swayed by what their eyes process.  Unfortunately they also often get things wrong for the same reason, mainly they undervalue little things such as heart and leadership because they can’t be measured by an albegraic equation.  The managers screw up so often because they just base everything off their eyes, you have to find that balance between the two to get a proper feel for what really happened.  Seeing a guy play 162 times could actually be detrimental when evaluating talent.  It makes it easy to forget what actually happened and the plays become blurred overtime.  This is how a guy like Rollins steals the award by making a few big plays down the stretch.  Still that doesn’t make it excusable.

They have a historical obligation to get these things right.  I never saw Stan Musial play so all I have to judge him by is other people’s accounts and his stats.  I’d like to think that my grandfather was a credible source considering his opinion is backed by all the MVP awards he won.  I consider Musial one of the ten best players of all time and I never saw him play a game.  Why?  Because the pile of hardware he has accumulated over the years and the high acclaim he has received from his peers and colleagues. When he was active there is little doubt that he was at the zenith of his profession the same way Alex Rodriguez is today.  The writers seem to get these correct more times than not, but was he this good?  I have no other resources to make a valid case.  What it comes down to is one thing principal, trust.  I hope they were more credible than the people are today.  There were no Gold Gloves during this period of history, but I imagine they were a little smarter than the people that gave Andruw Jones 11 golden mitts in a row even though he has been declining defensively for years.

I’ve covered this topic in the past, so in case you missed it here is a recap of what I said.

“If you begin to look at the numbers you’ll realize he’s not the same guy that used to effortlessly glide around the outfield plucking sure doubles from the sky.  From 1998-2002 there wasn’t a better defensive player in the league.  He racked up more than 400 putouts in each of those seasons, almost hitting 500 in ’99, but he hasn’t reached that mark since.  His zone rating shows that this isn’t a result of fewer opportunities.  During his heyday he was among the league leaders in this stat every year, leading as recently as 2001 but he has been in the bottom five each of the last four years.  Yet somehow he has managed to maintain his Gold Glove streak.  How does that happen?  Well, the difference between first and last is about three flies a week.  So if you aren’t watching him everyday, you’d never notice.”

Jones has become the most decorated center fielders of all time, in fact only Willie Mays has won Gold Gloves as a centerfielder.  Are we really ready to say that he is the best defensive centerfielder ever?  You better get ready because if he continues to skate on his reputation he will have the credentials to make the case.  Some day, 20 years from now, a kid is going to clickk open his web browser and see this number and be lead to believe something that isn’t true because a few managers would rather make the easy choice than do their homework.  So ask yourself, is Andruw Jones the best defensive player of all-time?  Or is he just good?  I won’t argue that he’s good, because he is, but are you ready to put him ahead of the Say Hey Kid?  I’m not.


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